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Episode 31 · Monday, 20 July 2026 · 82 min

The Next Phase of Human Evolution Is an Engineering Problem

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I sat down with my co-founder Jonathan to go deep on his 10 part essay "The Misframing of Longevity." His argument: the longevity movement is built on the wrong frame, repair and replacement medicine has a hard ceiling, and the real question is how humans co-evolve with technology. We cover the fifth layer thesis, BCIs, the future of war, what economic value means in a post AI world, and why we're at the edge of the next phase of human evolution. One of the most mind expanding conversations I've had.

Hosted by Robert Ta and Jonathan McCoy, co-founders of Clarity, reporting from the front lines of building an AI company.

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