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Episode 20 · Tuesday, 3 June 2025 · 69 min

What The Experts Are Saying About AI, Longevity, and Consciousness

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In this episode

In this episode, Robert and Jonathan recap their recent whirlwind tour through Sidebar (a product leadership conference) and Vitalist Bay (a longevity and biotech forum), where they stress-tested Epistemic Me’s product positioning, and made key partnerships.

This is a big Build In Public update + talk on Consciousness.

Key Takeaways:

* Epistemic Me’s positioning—“cohorts by belief, not by click”—resonated deeply with product leaders. It reframes personalization by focusing on the why behind user actions, not just the what.

* Robert and Jonathan used Sidebar and Vitalist Bay as live learning labs to refine positioning, messaging, and collect real-time feedback. Conferences weren’t just networking—they were epistemic wind tunnels.

* The idea of belief systems as UX primitives bridges deep philosophy with product design. Epistemic Me offers a toolkit for self-modeling, which can be applied to health, AI coaching, product growth, and more.

* Robert shares the powerful origin story of wanting to model his brother’s belief system to help treat his mental illness. This human angle grounds the tech in empathy and urgency.

* If AI is to understand us, we must first understand ourselves. Epistemic Me sees belief mapping as foundational to building aligned, ethical AI—and it’s inviting a community of builders to co-create that future.

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Hosted by Robert Ta and Jonathan McCoy, co-founders of Clarity, reporting from the front lines of building an AI company.

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